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Sharon Hollingsworth
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Dave White
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Joe.D
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Australia
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Posted - 15/06/2008 : 1:53:04 PM
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Hi All,
No doubt had it been another town in need of a stop. it would have gone ahead......shame on the decision makers.
The sad thing is Glenrowan obviously needs a TRAIN STOP........when I was in glenrowan some weeks back I actually watched a bus load of passengers from Melbourne & surrounded suburbs get off at the bus stop, so there sure is a need for a train stop.
Just think of the $$$$ that will generate for Glenrowan traders....shame on the decision makers
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Dave White
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Australia
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 Posted - 15/06/2008 : 2:03:17 PM
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| Spot on Joe, imagine how many more tourists you could get if trains ran. Especially considering petrol is no longer an option for many. I remember the station they had there before the whiteants got in and then they had unemployed people dismantle the frame. It seems that the new Govt and local council are not interested in Glenrowan, even though it could generate income and jobs.Dave |
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Sharon Hollingsworth
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kellycountry2000
Forum Admin
Australia
282 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2008 : 1:15:59 PM
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Dave White
Advanced Member
Australia
158 Posts |
Posted - 16/06/2008 : 7:42:49 PM
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THIS WAS INTERESTING. (May 1999)
Where can I find building plans to Glenrowan railway station?
My name is Melissa Doherty. I am a participant in the Wangaratta 'Work For The Dole Scheme'at the Glenrowan Ned Kelly Siege Site. The aim of the project is to rebuild the station to how it was originally during the time of the Ned Kelly Siege during the 1880s.
Unfortunately, there are no original plans for the building. We need to find a photo of another railway station, probably within the North-East Victorian region of Australia, that has an 'L'shape to it. We need to identify another railway building with an 'L'shape similiar to, or the same as Glenrowan's original station in order to contact a company named Sinclair, Knight and Mertz so they can provide us with plans so we can commence building.
If anyone has an interest or knowledge of railway buildings, please contact me urgently, as the group are eager to begin restoring this piece of Australian history.
Faithfully,
Melissa DOherty |
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Sharon Hollingsworth
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kellycountry2000
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Posted - 17/06/2008 : 8:57:01 PM
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Dave
where did you get the info from Melissa ?. I have the plans of the station rails and signals from 1962 which are interesting, but surely thay have the pictures taken of the station on the day in question in 1880 |
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Dave White
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Posted - 17/06/2008 : 9:31:02 PM
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I found that online Bruce, I was unable to make contact however.
I have a good pic somewhere I took of the steel beams before they were removed by these work for the dole people.
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Matt Woodw
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Australia
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Posted - 18/06/2008 : 8:46:29 PM
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Hi All
At the risk of sticking my head up and not wanting to offend anyone, how likely is it that trains to Glenrowan will attract more tourits? I suppose there are heaps of people south of the ranges in Vic that have not ventured that far and could be tempted if they could catch a train for the day! Would there be enough to see in the town to make a day of it? A morning and lunch probably but for many - it's a place you go to once but return visits are limited as it doesn't change to warrant further visits. However a new study has proven that trains are less harmful to the environment (pollution) than buses and cars and generally a cheaper way to travel. Interesting thoughts (I love my own debates) but at least if the Govt. are going to pull up the train lines in order that the gauge be the same from Melb. through to Sydney they may as well take the track back to the original alignment so that passengers have the option to alight at Glenrowan.
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Dave White
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Posted - 18/06/2008 : 9:01:58 PM
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| It is hard for me to be truly objective Matt as I would enjoy the regular visit. Then again I would hate the trip to the city to catch the train in the first place.lol I know what you mean about how long they would stay and how often they would go. If the only cost would be stopping a train I see no reason not to give it a try. One thing is for sure, as cars become too expensive to run a train ride sounds good. What about Glenrowan combined with other Kelly towns? Dave. |
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bill denheld
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Posted - 19/06/2008 : 10:19:57 AM
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Hello all,
Sharon, Dave, Joe, Bruce and Matt -
Interesting that 100 turned out to protest regarding Glenrowan not being a proper train stop.
In the news article Gary Dean points out it has to do with rail gauge and re alignments. However, the Glenrowan Improvers and Council's push for a Ned Kelly interpretive Centre for Glenrowan seems to have lost its head of Steam or been de railed, not by Ned and his friends, but by short sighted conservatives who can't see the big picture.
Seems most other town train stops down the line are getting what they want except Glenrowan? Why would this be so?
The State Government has tipped in $1.8 Million for Glenrowan town revitalization, the first step to the big picture, with Federal minister Sofie Mirabella (Panopolous) having secured the $15 Million to be spent on the planned interpretive centre. This money is still around - except perhaps it is being re allocated - because people who should have been supporting the initiative decided the town did not need it?
Tell that to the struggling shopkeepers dying - for a tourism upturn.
The new concept draft proposed Ned Kelly Centre at Glenrowan (NKCG) design by renowned architect Penleigh Boyd, ( of the Boyd family artists dynasty)- also happens to include a fully functional Railway Station that would draw day visitors from Melbourne and from way up north to experience the pros and cons of the Kelly legend. A place for contemplation to balance the story- outlaw or hero.
I have heard it said that a new Ned Kelly Centre would ruin the existing businesses in town? - nothing can be further from the truth.
Currently the town is a joke to all who come because there is virtually nothing there. Imaging how the town would be transformed with a new Ned Kelly Centre as a hub. - A truly modern Australian building to house the Kelly museum, the full story, video and cinema, that Ned would be proud of. Where one could spend many hours, to create interest that would kick start a vibrant tourism industry not only for Glenrowan but all surrounding towns as well.
Our passion for a new building is for Ned, his mates and sympathiser friends - and what they were prepared to stand up for. They all fought for a fairer society that we can now all enjoy, all thanks to the struggle known as the Kelly outbreak.
With overwhelming support from the town community for the NKCG and railway station, yet there is truth in " you get what you deserve" and the town remains a tourist joke.
Just ask yourself - how can I support the vision?
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kellycountry2000
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Posted - 19/06/2008 : 12:03:40 PM
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| Half of the fun in going to Glenrowan by train would be the type of train, If a steam train ran there I'm am sure it would be a popular trip, if it was a modern train, return trips would not happen |
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Joe.D
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Australia
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Posted - 19/06/2008 : 9:36:47 PM
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Hi All,
Bill...spot on....Glenrowan has nothing!! when I plan to stay in Kelly country for longer than a day I head to Wangarratta, I for one don't take a liken to the accomadation in Glenrowan & further more, where to find a decent place to sit down and have a meal.....mmmmm I suppose I'm fussy. Glenrowan obviously needs an upgrade for the sake of the tourists & the tourist $$$.
Bill has the "Kelly interpretive Centre" been canned? has the finale decision been made concerning it?
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Dave White
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Posted - 19/06/2008 : 10:17:30 PM
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I cannot agree with you on this one Joe.
The Kelly Country motel has great decor!
I love staying there, well I used to when the dinners were on.
As for meals, there are heaps, The Pub does great dinners, Kelly Cookhouse makes great fish N chips and burgers, Dad & Dave Tea house has all sorts of good stuff to eat and there is more. It is difficult for a small town when Wang is so close and people can go there for their needs.
As for the Interpretive Centre, I have had my thoughts and Bill's presentation on 1880 for years and it is still available to read.
That place is NOT suitable for Glenrowan in my opinion and that is all it is. (my opinion)Glenrowan has always appealed because it is a country town but I know not everyone agrees. Dave. |
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Joe.D
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Posted - 20/06/2008 : 3:55:11 PM
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Hi Dave,
Yes I respect what your saying.......... however each to their own ;-) as with the Interpretive centre I hear what your saying and a valid point.
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Dave White
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Sharon Hollingsworth
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179 Posts |
Posted - 26/06/2008 : 05:32:15 AM
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They are still trying to get the rail service..
cut and paste
Glenrowan rail bid
June 25 2008
Benalla Ensign
State Member for Benalla Bill Sykes has thrown his support behind
Glenrowan Improvers' bid to have the Glenrowan Railway Station upgraded
and re-opened as part of the $500 million upgrade of the Wodong Seymour
Rail line.
Dr Sykes last week met with Paddy Milne, Gary Dean and Linton Briggs and
heard of the potential benefits.
He said an operational railway station in Glenrowan would be a
tremendous boost to Glenrowan's Ned Kelly-based tourism trade.
He said it would also help the government meet its projections to have
more than 300,000 people a year visit the world-class wetlands, which
are to replace Lake Mokoan.
Following the meeting between Dr Sykes and the Glenrowan residents a
strategy is being prepared to enlist the support of local government and
regional state government agencies as well as local businesses and
individuals.
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bill denheld
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Posted - 24/07/2008 : 6:47:18 PM
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Dave's posting above-
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In case some have no idea what we are on about here is a link to the story - www. (a bit old now) Dave.
Yes Dave, we all agree 'a bit old now' - in fact five years old.
But does this help the cause? No.
If Ireland can create a Ned Kelly Centre - we can, without the help of eternal knockers.
Lets hope the Glenrowan Improvers will loby the authorities to fast track the initiative for a Ned Kelly Centre (started eight years ago), before Victoria becomes a laughing stock - for Irish Australian jokes?
You heard the one about Irishman 'John Kelly' being transported to Australia for stealing a pig? Well, did you hear the one about his Australian son 'Ned' being tranported back to Ireland ?
Can someone please finish the punch line.
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